Lords of Discord: Atlanta pastor defends church dancing to Chris Brown and Lil Jon music

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Atlanta pastor defends church dancing to Chris Brown and Lil Jon music

By Chris Witherspoon | thGrio.com

atlanta-pastorA video posted to Facebook recently went viral showing the congregation of The House of Hope Baptist Church in Atlanta getting down to secular music.

The church received heavy public scrutiny via social media, so much so that the pastor, Dr. E. Dewey Smith Jr., decided to address why his congregation sometimes dances to nonreligious tunes.

Smith says that the church recently adopted a multi-generational theme and began to creatively acknowledge and highlight each generation throughout the year.

“We decided to have an annual moment of ‘fun’ for our church that would highlight each generation. Since I am a comedian by nature, I endeavored to determine how we could have one fun moment annually amongst the generations of our ministry,” he said.

“Since 2007, at the end of our Church’s Anniversary … we would highlight each generation by finding music that was unique to each generation. We would find music, secular and sacred, that was popular during the times of each generation. The secular music would have to be non-violent, non-misogynistic, non-vulgar, non-profane, non-degrading and non-sexual in nature.”

The pastor went on to detail how each anniversary weekend, the church asks each member to dress in the color of their generation.

“The “Builders” (those born 1945 and before) are asked to wear black; the “Boomers” (those born between 1946-1965) are asked to wear brown; the “Busters” (those born between 1966-1983) are asked to wear gray; the “Bridgers” (those born between 1984-2003) are asked to wear red; and the “Blossoms” (those born between 2004 and the present) are asked to wear blue,” Smith said.

 

Watch the below video to see the pastor’s explanation of allowing secular music in his church

Play at 27:30 to see the congregation dance to Jermaine Dupri’s “Welcome to Atlanta.”

Play at 28:15 to see the congregation dance to DJ Snake & Lil Jon’s “Turn Down for What.”

Play at 34:49 to see the congregation dance to “Let it Go” from Frozen.

Play at 35:30 to see the congregation dance to Chris Brown’s “New Flame.”

Play at 43:30 to see the congregation dance to Pharell’s “Happy.”

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The House of Hope ATL 131st Church Anniversary (2007)

 

 

Play at 2:07 to see the congregation dance to Sam Cooke “You Send Me.”

Play at 4:28 to see the congregation dance to Temptations “My Girl.”

Play at 6:42 to see congregation dance to Prince “Doves Cry.”

Play at 8:36  to see the congregation dance to Mia featuring Jay-z, T.I. Kanye, Lil Wayne “Swagger Like Us”

Here are plenty of reasons why we shouldn’t bring the worlds music in the Church

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63 Comments on “Lords of Discord: Atlanta pastor defends church dancing to Chris Brown and Lil Jon music”

  1. Jack

    Didn’t bother to watch, you shouldn’t dance in church period. People take King David dancing before the LORD and run with it. Clap your hands, sing ( of HIM), shout the highest praise. But don’t dance. If you have to defend something, it usually can’t stand by merit alone.

  2. Ray Elmond

    I just joined this church after excepting christ in my life. I was a little confused when they play the music and everyone was grooving. What i was hoping to see whats wrong with it but everyone is just using cliches and scriptures but not going depth as to why this is wrong. Please help me understand and i will present it at b/study. Thank i really would like to know.

    1. K Taube

      The house of God is a house of prayer, worship, and holiness. One can stay on the outside of the building and get as secular as they want to, but the house of The Lord is a place to fear Him. (Not ‘fear’ as in “be afraid” but to revere, to reverence, to revel in, to empty one’s self and fill up with the spirit of God.

      The house of God is not the club, a place to put self, the world, sin, and all the pleasures of life higher than the Creator of the universe.

      I’m not a “Debbie downer”, but I refuse to devalue, to belittle, to self-exhalt anyone or anything over our Lord.

      My advise to you is:
      1. Leave. Go to a place you can empty yourself and fill up with the Holy Spirit.
      2. Pray. Pray for each of these people. It could be that they don’t know (realize) what they’re doing.
      3. Love. Love these people. People need an encounter with The Lord. They don’t need condemnation – they need love, forgiveness, and to be reconciled.

      The word says “seek ye first the kingdom of God…” and not “bring the pleasures of this world into the house of the Lord…” – and then all these things will be added unto you.

    2. Rev. Mary

      Bro. Elmond, I will try to be as thorough as possible – without judging.

      I personally don’t see anything wrong with having a good time; however, all things must be done with decency and in order. The following scriptures, prayerfully, will give you a more righteous understanding:

      1. Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 (by Solomon, the wisest man to live…) says, “To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under the heaven”… Verse 4 specifies that the is a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to mourn and a time to dance;
      … So according to this sacred text everything has its place and time to occur…

      2. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all Debbie Jesus’ reaction to the illicit behaviors that were taking place in the place called by His name “the temple” and to this He stayed that His House shall be one of prayer for all nations… Isaiah 56:7 and Jeremiah 7:11 both point to this same instance, as a matter of fact Jeremiah calls for repentance for the many wicked deeds that the children of Israel were perpetrating in the house of God…

      3. John 2:1-12 clearly show Jesus in attendance at a festive celebration… He even turned the water into to shelf wine; however, this event was appropriately held in a place that did not compromise the ministry of Christ. That would have caused the “haters” (Pharisees and Sadducees ) to have legitimate reason to accuse Jesus of being other than who He said He was… It would have caused certain doubt. You see, these sects didn’t doubt Christ they simply had a problem that He spoke and moved with an assurance that they themselves lacked.

      4. 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 speaks on the freedom of choice which every believer has, but just because this is so does not mean that we SHOULD do that particular thing; especially if doing so will cause another saint to stumble.

      I absolutely love music, not all, but music that moves and not incites, music that soothes and not diminishes the self, and music that inspires us to weirdo and edify God…

      Very simply, they’re may not have been anything wrong with the lesson and purpose of the Pastor, but I believe his choice of location was wrong… The church ground is and should remain Holy Ground.

      We, the children of God should work to keep s clear conscience 1Peter 3:16…

      My thoughts…

      Be Blessed
      (Moments Like These…)

      1. Rev. Mary

        Ooops* … Should have said “… That inspires us to worship and glorify God” … Towards the bottom, sorry all – thought I caught all of the typos…

        God bless!

    3. Melinda

      If you were confused you just answered your own question, God is not the author of confusion but of peace. This really does no need an hour of bible study. Alls it takes is the Holy Ghost and some ppl Dnt evn have him and know this is nonsense and don’t belong in church

    4. 1servant

      Raymond if the scripture is not enough than nothing will be because we can justify anything we WANT in our hearts. The only anaolgy that i can give you is this, before i surrenderd to the Savior and submitted to His Lordship i drank bicardi rum i did not like my drink mixed with anything because i wanted the full impact of what it could do, it would change me into something else without any inhibitions. I was loosed to do anything and everything i would not do in my sober mind. We are to be sober and vigilant(1Peter5:8) at all times we have and advesary who’s waiting for anyway to get in. Why would i want to go back to where i came from, and that music can take you back in your mind to people places and events that we should have denied and become separated from when we became a new creation in Christ.
      Raymond I pray that you get rooted and grounded in the truth of God’s word and His way without mixture because the truth alone is powerful but when you begin to mix it you will not experience God’s power to deliver you and make you free. God bless

    5. Marcus

      Before Satan was cast out of heaven, he was a beautiful praise and worship leader unto God. He was cast out by God because he became prideful, and he wanted to exalt himself higher than God. Before reading the scriptures below, keep in mind; Tabrets are not only a beautiful adornment but also a powerful tool used in praise, worship and intercession. Pipes all through the bible represent instruments. You can find all those scriptures below in the King James Version Bible.

      Tabrets:
      Genesis 31:27
      1 Samuel 10:5
      1 Samuel 18:6
      Job 17:6
      Isaiah 5:12
      Isaiah 24:8
      Isaiah 30:32
      Jeremiah 31:4
      Ezekiel 28:13

      Pipes:
      1 Samuel 10:5
      1 Kings 1:40
      Isaiah 5:12
      Isaiah 30:29
      Jeremiah 48:36
      Ezekiel 28:13
      Matthew 11:17
      Luke 7:32
      1 Corinthians 14:7
      Revelation 18:22

      Ezekiel 28:12-17King James Version (KJV)
      12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

      13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

      14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

      15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

      16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

      17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

      Isaiah 14:12-14King James Version (KJV)
      12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

      13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

      14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

      So to make a long story short, We all were born with gifts given to us by God. When we use those talents to exalt ourselves and unrighteousness rather than God, we become distant from walking in the power and Glory God created us to be in. As we become distant from that glory, Satan becomes closer to us, and it starts to show in our attitudes, lyrics, persona, etc. All those attributes start to become the same as Satan’s which is arrogant, prideful, etc. Those attributes give God no glory at
      all. Don’t let satan fool you either, he comes as an angel of light. Satan will use a person on stage to sing about sex, killing, money, drugs, and after that person wins an award, they always want to thank God. Thank God for what?! The award?, the money?, the fame? after all that praise and worship unto perverseness, they certainly can’t be thanking God showing forth the fruits of righteousness on state or on the album. Here are the fruits of righteousness which are attributes of the Holy Spirit of God.

      Galatians 5:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
      22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

      23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.Here are the fruits of Satan aka the flesh:

      Galatians 5:19-21King James Version (KJV)
      19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

      20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

      21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

      So during these end times, when you see someone operating in the wrong spirit and thanking God for it, don’t follow them and engage in the worship they engage in just because they are thinking God. Be very mindful of the lyrics. We all worship something; the lyrics are the number one clue of who and where our worship is directed to.

      The Holy scriptures say this:
      Romans 14:11 King James Version (KJV)
      11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

      Demons, humans, aliens, trees, wind, water and everything else on the face of the earth have no choice but to acknowledge God, but should we follow them and incorporate their unrighteous lifestyle into ours just because they acknowledged God? Nope! we just continue to love them and continue to pray for them. Continue to intercede for them in our prayer closets that they be no longer blind and that they learn the error of their ways before it is too late. In Jesus name, you have a blessed day!

    6. sheka

      My Dear run for your life. This is not what the house of the lord should be like. What fellowship has light with darkness. Go into the ible read pray and fast ask God to direct you to where he would want you to fellowship and get a good solid foundation. The devilnis very deceptive God word said in the last days, many will come in his name and say Lord, Lord. You know what my dear, you know that deep down it is wrong. U have just accepted Christ into your life, if u are confused then this is not the place where u are to be, God is not the author of confusion. U are a babe in Christ and it can be easy to be mislead. Seek God my advice to you is to take a break from the church have no association with any member of the church for a while, to seek God hear his Voice and you will get your answer, remember the Holy Spirit cannot dwell in darkness, if there is no holy Spirit experience in this church. Run for your life. Read 1 and 2 peter meditate on it. Please let me know if I was any help

    7. Leanna

      Most who teach this take the description of the King of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28:12-15[12] Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. [13] Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. [14] Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. [15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
      See All…
      to be a description of Satan. He is said there to have been in the Garden of Eden and was perfect in all his ways until iniquity was found in him. That fits none other but the devil. Therefore, the prince of Tyrus mentioned earlier in the chapter would be the earthly ruler of Tyre, while the king of Tyrus would be the devil who rules over the prince of Tyrus. Daniel, chapter ten, also deals with the connection between many earthly rulers and evil spiritual principalities.

      Therefore, taking this to be Satan, Ezekiel 28:13
      has a phrase that is very interesting: “the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.” That is, he was created with tabrets and pipes built in him. What would this refer to?  Tabrets (spelled taborets in modern English) are small drums like those used to beat out timing for a fife player. Pipes probably refer to tubes used to produce tones by blowing air through them, as in an organ. This shows us that the devil had the makings of percussion instruments and wind instruments built into his very being.

      We can also arrive at a good conclusion as to why he had this apparatus built in him. In Ezekiel 28:14
      , he is called the “anointed cherub that covereth.” In Ezekiel 10:1-22
      , there are four cherubim who stand at the four corners of the throne of God. Since “the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub” (Ezekiel 10:4
      ), the cherubim were there to give glory and praise to the Lord. But here we see no cherub covering the throne.  That had been the job of Satan as the anointed cherub that covered. He would be the fifth cherub and his job would have been to glorify God. It is interesting that the most powerful of God’s heavenly creatures is the one who most prominently gives glory and praise to God. In one sense therefore, Satan was the heavenly choir director and he led the songs of praise to the Lord that still ring in heaven. The inbuilt tabrets and pipes would definitely come in handy he

    8. Leanna

      find scripture where it says we should be like th world…my bible tells me TO COME OUT FROM AMONGST THEM(world) AND BE SEPARATE…NOWHERE DOES IT SAY GO BACK AND BECOME LIKE THE WORLD

    9. zipporah

      i undestand ur question. the world says that God is holy. that means set aside for God. u dont mix what is holy and the profane ezekiel 44:23. ezekiel 22:26. a church service is mapped out in the Word of God. it is not open to interpretation. the bible is not a novel. a novel is open to interpretation. the bible isnt. God is a God of order. so he does thngs in order. when the body of Christ get together for edification, we praise and worship God thru music, then the high priest comes and read from the Word and tells us what thus said the Lord. it is all over the old test. study to show yourself approved. study the order of the service in the tabernacle. this footage shows people worshipping themselves-their flesh, being carnal. the core had nothing to do with God. we worship Him in Spirit and truth.

      , after the first generation, they were jamming when the secular songs played. they looked just like the israelites in the 10commandments movies when they made a golden calf when moses went up to the mountain to pray and receive the law. study for yourself. in what spirit was this done

      at the end, the minister said to let people worship God the way that people want. that is not true. we have to worship him in Spirit and truth. the only please God is by faith and u have to know the Word of God to do so. the way we show we love Him is thru obedience thru His Word. we, in the body of Christ, cannot throw words around. every idle word we utter is recorded. words mean something. there is a time and place for everything. and that wasnt the time or place for what they were doing.

      secular music. secular means worldly. the world is not of God. He tells us to come out from the world. and they brought the worlds music into a worship house of God

    10. Jack

      Brother you can’t mix what’s profane with that which is Holy. Profane means something that is secular or of the world. GOD tells us that if we are a friend of the world we are his enemies. Don’t give up on the path to CHRIST.
      You are the church through JESUS. I can’t tell you what to do, but I wouldn’t bother bringing this up at b/study. If this guy is a Phd. he should know this simply tenant. Above all don’t give up on this path. And don’t believe what any man says until you check it out through the WORD. DON’T GIVE UP!

    11. Iris

      To R.E. Praise GOD for your acceptance of Christ and all that that now brings to your life. There are soooo many scriptural reasons why this dancing to secular music in the HOUSE OF GOD is unacceptable but I will share a few for you to look into and then see where else the Spirit will lead you to (as well as those Godly elders that I pray are in your life :-)

      1. II Cor 6:17 (and I am paraphrasing so Do read for yourself) says to come out from among them, meaning we are to separate ourselves from the ungodly lifestyles we were used to before accepting Christ, and leave behind those things which are tempting us to stay “in the world”.

      2. Romans 12:1-2 tells us to become living sacrifices, to willingly give up our old ways and mindsets and to transform into that which is pleasing and acceptable to HIM, meaning no longer shaking our “tail feathers”!!
      (as Jack said, we use David dancing as an excuse but it said David danced before The Lord, singing praises to God, NOT dancing just for dancing’s sake, no matter what reason the pastor uses to justify this “generational” connection he is trying to cling to)

      3. I Peter 2:9 tells us we are peculiar, set apart, from the rest of the world, that we are royal priesthood. Priests by definition in Old Testament, dedicated and cleansed and presented themselves before God so that they could then operate on behalf of God. I don’t think it holy to dance to secular music in a house that is supposedly dedicated to a Holy God, for the darkness which God brought us out from is then brought INTO a place of Light, and THAT ought not be.

      I appreciate the pastor trying to bridge the gap of the congregants but biblically, there are too many other ways to do it without bringing Bey and Jay, and C. Brown and any other secular artist who might seem “okay” to play because that particular song does not have cursing and lewd lyrics.

      I will pray for you….if you bring this up in b’study I pray they will at least READ the scripture for what is says and NOT what they Want it to mean to them. (….lean not to our own understanding…..!)

      II Tim says to study to show Ourselves approved to GOD, not man. If the scripture pricks your heart and you feel this dancing to secular music in church is not right, then I pray you will allow God to send you to a House of Worship where all the dancing and singing is in praise of God and not to connect with a younger generation.

      Peace to you Young Christian soldier :-)

    12. dbm

      Mr Elmond,

      How about I give you my testimony.

      This was me over 30 years ago. I was hungry for the Word of God and was sincerely looking for a real relationship with Jesus Christ . I became discontented with church because I grew up in religious bondage. My father did not lead us into attending church,even though he was in the home. Our mother did, and the church we attended was headed by a female Bishop. Deep down I was looking for a relationship with Jesus Christ because I had such a hunger and void. I ended up in a church almost identical to what I see here. MR Elmond, I do not want to happen to you what happened to me from the pain of wrong church leadership. I was eventually drawn to a male leader (a former Pastor ), but unfortunately had no prior knowledge or examples of what male leadership demonstrated after God’s true Pattern was supposed to look like. I got caught up in the kind of fellowship, praise and worship that I had never experienced , and it felt so “Liberating”. I could not see the signs and ignored the warnings along the way. We sang worship songs about “Liberty and freedom in Jesus Christ” ,We had bible studies about ” liberty and freedom in Jesus Christ”, and (the Pastor) preached messages about “liberty ” in Jesus Christ .We though we were free because we “felt” so happy. But none of it was genuine because our Pastor never fully left the the world, every now and then he would incorporate compromise in his sermons. Then it began to manifest in the church full blown, next thing you know, we were having a church anniversary party and “groovin” to Parliment- funkadelic” and dancing to “George Clinton’s “Atomic Dog”. no different than what I see here. of course, I never questioned it because I was afraid of being accused of being “religious”. We witnessed first hand how members would be “Ostracized” when they challenged The Pastor’s decisions against scripture. And when members would leave “choosing to obey the Word instead” He used scripture against them to justify their departure. Pastors that suppress their conscience and deny Christ in their actions, are not only in error but eventually end up following the pattern of “HIRED SERVANTS”. e.g.”Preachers of L.A” Either our Pastor never left the World or went back into it, to this day I do not know. The balance of that scripture is JOHN 10:11-12 whereas the “HIRED SERVANT” abandons the sheep and leaves them vulnerable to fend for themselves in the midst of “wolves” . I later was led to repenting from the spirit of pride and disobedience, due to embracing the acceptance I craved for by feeling “special” because so many others had left the church while we maintained our loyalty. I need to ask you this, In the videos of this church in this post, MR Elmond, can you truly identify the FRUIT THAT POINTS TO THE KINGDOM”S FOUNDATION OF “GOD’S GENUINE and AUTHENTIC PATTERN OF LEADERSHIP, AUTHORITY and HEADSHIP” ESTABLISHED BY JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE AND THE HEAD WHICH THE APOSTLES LAID AND FOLLOWED?
      I can respect you not wanting “cliche’s” So I would like to suggest you order material from this website if you haven’t already.

    13. Violet Oregano

      The pastor is right that the music itself won’t send you to hell but the part I find not biblical for a church is making you remember your past. The bible says to look ahead and not look back. I have no problem with secular music, although I don’t listen to it because it does bring me back to my past and what I was doing in my past. I don’t want to remember any or all of those memories. The bible tells us to not be conformed to this world and this is conforming. What if this once a year event brings someone back so far who’s not strong in the Word, they backslide and renounce Jesus, get killed and do go to hell!! What if like you this new Christian is so confused by this that you decide to stay in the world and think there are no true Christians. I don’t want to say this is not a good church because I don’t know. But wherever you go make sure they are pointing you to Jesus and true change in Him and through Him! When we are to repent it is a total change to look like Him. You should desire to want to look like Him and in my opinion as a visitor just watching this video I didn’t see Jesus in any one of these services. Study your Word because it’s all there, not to pick and choose the easy or pretty parts but all the parts. God bless you.

  3. Jordan

    Wrong on all terms. Here’s one reason; the secular music originator is satan, for he was the worship leader in heaven and was kicked out but his gift was never taken away. He tries to imitate God’s agenda by producing his own. He was created with valves so he is still leading worship but his kind and for him. We are not supposed to take things offered to idols and offer it to a Holy GOD. GOD has His own music, It’s unique, original, and HOLY! Look at king nebacanassar, who made a statue of himself, and told them at the sound of the music, fall down and worship. Anytime we lift our hearts, hands and self to secular music we are worshipping the originator of it. We ought to worship GOD in spirit and truth, when we listen to this music, GOD is not on our minds, but our past is on our mind, the things we use to enjoy while on our way to hell is on our mind, all the memories of what we used to do and how we used to fill at that moment is on our mind. These are some of the reasons why it’s wrong. AMEN!

  4. M.

    Then you wonder why unbelievers don’t want to come church because you have churches like this do stuff like this. I mean come on, playing songs that remind people of the past isn’t the wisest move this pastor has made and the fact that it’s the second time I’ve seen this on video. He’s not serious!

    1. Jack

      Dancing brings attention to one’s self and away from GOD. Dancing makes the flesh feel good. Pride of life and lust of flesh. I did not say it ( not dancing) was scriptural. Pastor Lewis gave a great history lesson on dancing in
      the black church, ( true-church.org/atcp-11-23-14.mp3) GOD doesn’t like pride and our flesh is our closest enemy. We need to keep both in check.

  5. Oliver Gabriel

    Ray Elmond. The reason why there are many Christians here along with myself that are displeased with this church’s demonstration in this video is that we are called to set our lives apart from the world. In 1 John 2:15 we are told not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. We are also told in Romans 12:2 not to conform to this world but be transformed by the renewing of our mind. If we are born again Christians, the things of this world such as going to clubs, partying, cursing, getting drunk would be unpleasant to us now and that old nature would be gone. Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature ( 2 Corinthians 5:17). He now longer wants to entertain things of this world, he wants to serve Christ. He wants to build a relationship with him, pray to God in His name, rely on Him, serve Him as his God. We cannot serve our Holy God in the manner that we want to, we must be obedient to His words and His commandments. If you truly love Jesus, you would want to keep His commandment as He stated”If you love me you’ll keep my commandments John 14:15-31 How can you be born again and saved from the wrath of God when you are still entertaining your former lusts such as this music presented here which shows no true reverence to God. Ask yourself, does this truly worship God entertaining former “BC” music in CHURCH? With music like this being introduced to the church, this leaves an open door for demons in the spiritual world to have control over your life and keep you in a false converted state. To be truly saved, obey the Lord, repent from your sins, ask for forgiveness and trust in Jesus Christ’s finish work on the cross, not this foolishness taking place in this church. Find a true Church that is concerned about your eternal soul, preaches on Heaven and Hell and serves the true Jesus of the Bible. I hope this helps. God Bless.

  6. Brittney

    Hey Ray. I hope my response to your question will steer you in the right way. I wouldnt want you to be lead astray.
    Dancing to secular music in the church is known as wrong because it is not honoring The Lord God Himself. Whichever artist or group who sings thr songs ask yourself are they a) Saved for Jesus Christ and 2) are thru honoring God with their lifestyle. This would mean.. Do they believe the entire Word of God and are following His commandments and/ or way they should live or are their actions contrary to the Bible. Im reminded of Colossians 3 . It talks about putting on the New Self. We deny &dont do the same things we did before getting saved(swearing., sex outside of marriage, lying and etc). On the ex ministires website G.craig Lewis goes in depth from The Truth Behind Hip hop1-7 providing scriptual references with why this music shouldnt be played in church. I highly encourage you to watch those dvds. I hope this helps!

  7. Brittney

    You can dance in church as long as the individuals or yourself are doing ot to honor and give praise / worship unto God. In scripture dancing is acceptable and not prohibited.
    Psalms 30:11 “” You have turned my mourning into dancing”.

    Ecclesiastes 3:4 ” a time to mourn,a time to dance.

  8. TPea

    This is truly end times when the church begins to use secular music as a means of “relating” to generations and what is done “BC”.is glorified.

  9. 1servant

    I’m sorry Pastor Craig, but I have to say this man if he does not repent is on his way to the abyss and leading many strait to HELL with him. He does not honor God, and salvation of men women boys and girls is a joke to him. He does not have the Holy Spirit. This is the judgement of Almigthy God(false prophets) to give the people what they lust for(THE WORLD)

  10. Melinda

    Oh yes he does this every year but he also had the whole church giving honor to a false God , as he is in a fraternity , so why stop there, because after what I saw on that video with ques or whatever he is in honoring the divine 9 foolishness , the real God ain’t in tht church anyway, both can’t be up in there

  11. Bettina Broussard

    We must bring our flesh under subjection to the Holy Spirit all day long we do not need to be n church dancing to the world’s music pray church pray judgment will begin in the house of the Lord t

  12. Leanna

    Better find another church…where in holy Word does it say mix unholy music with Godly music.. this is just a decice of the enemy to gain entrance into the BODY of CHRIST by mocking God and the pastor goes along with the devils agenda…does it not say in the book Isaiah that Lucifer was the son of the morning that he was made to usher in GOD’S presence..because Hod created him with that ability..so when he was cast down the devil still has the ability to create music…so now he uses pastors to help him carry out his agenda…we all need to pray for SPIRITUAL repentance and revelation of Gods word..ALL HE IS SHOWING (THIS PASTOR) IS HOW TO COMPROMISE GOD’S UNCHANGABLE WORD CAN BE TWISTED TO FIT A PERSON LIFE STYLE…WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WORD GODS WORD..WHERE ARE THE PREACHERS THAT WILL STAND UYP AND NOT COMPROMISE…EVEN MY 15 YEAR OLD SON KNOWS THIS ISNT RIGHT AND THIS PASTOR NEEDS PRAYER..THE DEVIL HAS BLINDED HIS EYES AND HEART AND HAS DULLED HIS HEARING…PRAYER WARRIORS PRAY..THE END IS COMING LETS SAVE OUR GENERATION FORBTHIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS WITHOUT SEEING THE COMING OF THE LORD

  13. Miss B

    If I’ve left the world to come to christ, I have left the things of the world which would include certain music types. When I go to church am looking to be guided and shown the right path and how to stay on it. Bringing in the music I used to listen too in the clubs, doesn’t matter if it’s the clean version or not. My mind is taken me back the the club and partying days. I would like to believe that as God’s people we are gifted and talented enough to create music for us to party and jam to. Why do we have to use the world’s clean version.
    The pastor may have had the best intentions, but I believe he should really re-think this. Are you bringing and keeping the church going, by your works or by the good ol trip down memory lane.

  14. Ken

    This just shows you how spiritually bankrupt ‘preachers’ have become. Secular music has no place in places of worship. Keep it in clubs and let the clubs copy you and not the other way round.

  15. Alex

    I don’t see what’s wrong with it. No one was dancing inappropriately and the music they played wasn’t inappropriate. Maybe the last one a little bit that’s because all music now a days is horrible. But the temptations? Who says when you become saved, you only listen to hymns? As long at the music isn’t degrading to the Christian belief (talking about sex, drugs, vulgar language, idolizations,etc) I see nothing wrong with it. I watched the second video only. And the article is very misleading. I thought I was going to see people disrespecting the Lords house but I didn’t. This was music you would play at a Christian family cookout. Except for the rap one.

    1. Cheryl

      Hey Alex,

      Dancing to the music is inappropriate, because we are not worshipping God with our bodies. The music was inspired by and dedicated to Satan. Even though the music may not have harsh lyrics the intent is eternal damnation.This music blocks us from understanding and obeying God’s word. By yielding our members to this music we have removed God as the head of our life. The Bible say “Be Holy as I am Holy.” Try watching the Truth Behind Hip Hop 5. Although I used to dance to secular music. I would never play it or dance to it in church. God told me twice in my life to stop listening to the music. When I did I began to mature in my Christian faith. As soon as I got comfortable and started listening to secular music mostly jazz. I began to backslide. I realized the error of my ways the second time God also asked me to stop dancing. Now after watching the DVD’s I know why. I pray that you will obtain and retain the knowledge of God. Be blessed!

      1. 1servant

        Wow Alex you didnt see what was inappropriate in the sanctuary of God. If that’s what you play and dance to at a picnic that’s fine but it does not belong in the sanctuary. I feel sorry for this generation because the leaders are teaching you Alex that it’s all about you if you get bored we will find some way to entertain you so we can keep you in this church so what your no more saved than a rock. Not many are willing to go the narrow way but many run on the broad way that leads to destruction. I suggest you flee if you are in a church where the pastor compromises with the world because your spiritual sense will be dulled. PLEASE READ THE BIBLE GOD DOES NOT CHANGE FOR US HE IS STILL HOLY YESTERDAY NOW AND FOREVER!

      2. Cheryl J Grady

        Cheryl,
        when I read your reply to Alex, I saw myself in some of your words. Like you, I had stopped listening to secular music many years back, got comfortable and started listening to secular music again-even to the point of having a wide collection of artists! My daughter (with the same name) brought home some of G Craige Lewis’ DVDs and while she was in our living room watching one, I came in the room. I sat down to watch and I was convicted that I needed to “utterly destroy” all the albums, CD’s and DVD’s (music and movies) that I had. Someone suggested that I have a yard sale and to give the proceeds to our special missions contribution and I said to the sister, “if I am no longer going to listen to and look at these things, how can I justify myself before God to sell them to someone else?!” I am grateful to God to have come back to my senses in regard to the music that is so prevalent in the world today and also that God is merciful! He allowed me to be in the room with my daughter to hear what I heard so that I could repent (change) from what I had gotten away from but then got myself right back into…. My collection had become so big that I had a jacket for female artist and one for male artists. I still have one for the gospel artists and I see that I am going to have to go through that one as well and get “rid” of some of the artists that I have collected.
        We have to be so very careful to stay in step with the Spirit and to continually examine ourselves.

    2. Christina

      If I wanted to continue listening to secular music, I would have remained unsaved in the world, partying in the club like I used to do. Leave what is of the world in the world, why are christians steady bringing what’s of the world into the church? That music has no place in the church, that is disrespect to the Lord, the sanctuary is where music is to be for the glory, honor and worship of God only. The music that was being played may have decent lyrics but the artists and writers behind those songs are satanic, some openly worship the devil and have un-christian beliefs, if that is a word. I don’t want to hear that music in church, I want to hear the word and enjoy the Lord, not the devil’s music. If my church did that I would run out of there quick and never turn back. I go to church for healing, for worship, for renewing, and that will not come from hearing Lil Jon and Chris Brown, that is absurd. That pastor is basically telling the members to continue with their worldly ways. I will pass. People, run from this church!!

      1. melinda

        I can only say amen, this foolishness is telling ppl stay in the world or go back to it, just as u said you could have stayed unsaved if u wanted to keep tht garbage .

  16. Jay

    This is crazy. There is nothing wrong with christians dancing but why did he feel the need for unholy secular music? SMH. There is so much great gospel music, there is no shortage. This is what I could never understand, believers who bring secular music into the church thinking its fine but have a problem with certain types of gospel music. Sigh, sad times.

  17. Bewindi Bobb

    I cried while watching this.. how much my spirit was grieved… wow! To see the youth so engaged in this and encouraged … but yet not actively be engaged in praise and worship … wow :(

  18. Althea

    I think its even sadder for us over in South Africa cause many of our churches and ministers want to imitate all the hogwash they see overseas, particularly in America. South Africans think Americans are so cool and they know it all. All these things are only a sign that the Lord’s coming is at hand.Maranatha

  19. lasae

    Ray,

    I know how things are when we first get saved as well as joining a new church. We must be careful what we allow in to the Holy place of the Lord. Sadly so many take the term Christian and just add it to everything else that they do. The first sign of this be a problem is when the pastor basically had to let the people know that some people need to loosen up and we can be to Holy. There is no such thing as being to Holy when it comes to God we are called to be Holy we can’t just do whatever makes us feel good. When your pastor allows this type of music in the church how does he preach to the congregation the next week? What does he preach on? What could he possibly tell the congregation about being worldly after allowing this type of music to be played in the church? Many pastors and churches just do whatever they want in the pulpit and the people love the pastor so much that they just let these types of things ride. If I were to say something about this like I am I look like the foolish man everyone will say ” Aw man it doesn’t take all that you can have fun in the church”. Church is a place to teach the saints and to honor and worship God not a party to honor the flesh. I’m a young minister and it’s such a shame that many of the men that I should be looking up to are involved in this type of foolishness.

    Minister Lasae

  20. Iris

    Ya know, when I finally had time to listen/watch the whole WHOLE thing via the attached videos, I realized that the preacher/pastor didn’t even try to cover it up, said outright to groove the way you used to when that music was in your day…..just leading folk down the wrong path. Hey, I am not sooooo saved that I don’t remember my “old days” as well but I also realize that my good ole days were bad for my soul and only by denying those things which I USED to cling to am I able to fully enjoy myself in Christ TODAY. Let the old man die so that the new creature that Christ has made us can truly LIVE well and to sing and dance praises to the one and only True God through His Son Jesus the Christ :-) Peace.

  21. Alan Byrd

    My brain just totally stopped functioning when I looked at this….. This is unreal….Here we are literally living in the last days, and these folks are doing this foolishness in church.

  22. Dana Sullivan

    Notice he is using the word I. “We decided to have an annual moment of ‘fun’ for our church that would highlight each generation. Since I am a comedian by nature, I endeavored to determine how we could have one fun moment annually amongst the generations of our ministry,” he said.
    You have to be “Spirit lead not I lead.” Always consider the new believers. Read 1 Corinthians 8:1-13

  23. Moses D Jr

    This is really sad I pray they all realize and repent in their flesh and get born again. I never seen so much foolishness like this, smh wow.

  24. Wayne A. Lewis

    This is wickedness. Sometimes our desire to stay or be relevant is just misplaced. There is no way that such behaviour should be allowed in Church. “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” It will take sometime to undue what this “Man of God” has done. As far as what His church is promoting to the community they are influencing, they’re saying it is okay to listen too and express yourself with the music of this world, secular music is not bad, Particularly, the music of your generation. Yet Jesus states “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.” This is just wickness personified.

  25. GraceSolutions

    Dear Heavenly Father, please guide those who are in darkness into the light. Renew their minds, and assist them in making a clean break from the world’s patterns (Satan’s domain). Allow the truth to bring them out and encourage believers whom you awakened with the courage to speak the truth even in the face of opposition. Thank You Lord Amen!

    This was truly grieving all, I must say. I am an individual who is 25 years old and delivered from a cult run by Satan that had a christian mask on for the first 22 years of my life. I was taught that I had no way of being saved unless I was a member of that church. Spiritual, emotional, financial, mental abuse and all masked in love, laughter, and family. Even through it all, God has shown me much about the kingdom of darkness, EX Ministries was on of main reasons I got saved, but also much about His kingdom and how IT IS NOT OF THIS WORLD!

    Please everybody, Jesus is real! Repent (Acknowledge that you are a sinner and be truly willing to change) not just say it, and ask Jesus to forgive you! He did it for me and will surely do it for you. He will tear the veil that Satan has used human puppets for centuries to cast over your mind, fill you with His Holy Spirit and give you the victory over sin in your life!

    Ladies and gentlemen, these are not semantics and require no bickering and extremely long scripture blocks to justify dancing, etc. If God created it, it is good. Satan understands this and simply aims to corrupt the CONTEXT in which we enjoy what God has provided.

    Liken it unto an airplane travel or navigation. If your destination is Point B, then you must fly a precise route from Point A and course correct to stay on track along the way. If you are only 1 degree off and do not course correct, you will most certainly end up at Point C! Which was NEVER intended.

    Please take heed, all those who read! God bless you all, I will be praying and pray for me also! I love you all, no matter where you may be, the time is now!

  26. Owen Strong

    I can’t believe this FOOL!! Yes, there is nothing wrong with secular music. I am a Pastor of a Church and enjoy listening to all types of music. But you don’t play and dance to secular music in the HOLY PLACE!! There is a time and a place for everything. The Church is set apart for WORSHIPING GOD!! What kind of IDIOT pastor would do such a thing?? This is what happens when carnal pastors revert to gimmick and tricks to entertain the sheep instead of preaching and teaching the Word of God. I am totally VEXED in my spirit be watching this!! We are truly in the LAST DAYS!!

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